Posts Tagged ‘Greece’


Source:  International Herald Tribune 

Published Date:  October 2, 2008


ATHENS: About 80,000 migrants have traveled to Greece this year and decided to stay illegally, according to the authorities, who say the country can no longer handle the task of guarding the European Union’s southeast flank.

While initial problems with the flood of migrants from Africa and the Middle East who are desperate to enter Europe centered on the Aegean islands, migrants are now wreaking havoc in the capital.

The historic center of Athens has been riven by several street battles in recent months, involving what the police characterize as rival groups, often involved in dealing drugs, from Afghanistan, Iraq and war-torn African countries wielding swords, axes and machetes.

After 11 people were hurt in one such brawl in late August, the police began 24-hour patrolling of the area. Store owners and residents are leaving the busy central shopping and restaurant district.

According to a residents’ group, dozens of people renting in the area have left their homes in the past year, and several stores have closed, chiefly small but long-established neighborhood conveniences like bakeries, hardware stores or delicatessens.

“People are scared and depressed, it’s getting worse and worse,” said Vassiliki Nikolakopoulou of the group, Panathinaia.

The top policy adviser for immigration issues at the Interior Ministry, which also oversees public order, blames the influx of about 80,000 migrants this year.

“Because of this phenomenon, we see more and more immigrants in central Athens trying to survive, often through illicit activities,” the official, Patroklos Georgiadis, said in a telephone interview. “This unpleasant situation – for the migrants and for us as an EU country – has become unbearable.”

Georgiadis said that Greece supported the stricter line on immigration being promoted by the bloc’s French presidency. “There will not be another wave of legalization of immigrants in Greece in the near future,” Georgiadis said, referring to the three programs that have granted work and residence permits to some 500,000 migrants, most of them undocumented foreigners – at least half from Albania – since 1997.

The unrest in Athens has triggered a backlash from the far-right party Laos, whose popularity has jumped to 5.4 percent in opinion polls from 3.5 percent when it entered Parliament a year ago.

“The city center has been taken hostage by gangs of illegal immigrants with knives – isn’t it about time we asked ourselves if we have too many of them?” a Laos legislator, Antonis Georgiadis, said during a recent television debate. He is not related to the immigration official.

Although some on the Greek left have warned against demonizing migrants, the Athens prefect, Yiannis Sgouros, who belongs to the main opposition Socialist party, Pasok, refers to an “explosive problem” in the heart of the capital, where thousands of migrants living in cheap hotels and derelict houses struggle to find work.

“Illegal immigrants are becoming pawns to local drug barons and are forming gangs,” Sgouros wrote last week in a letter to Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis. He added: “Something has to change or the area will become an arena for race clashes and gang wars.”

Thomas Hammarberg, a Swede who is human rights commissioner at the Council of Europe, has criticized Greece and other EU states for “criminalizing the irregular entry and presence of migrants as part of a policy of so-called migration management.”

“Political decision-makers should not lose the human rights perspective in migration,” Hammarberg wrote in an e-mail message when asked to comment for this article. “Migrants coming from war-torn states should be given refuge.”

The government says that Greece grants protection to all refugees, as long as their status can be proven. But UN refugee agency statistics show that Greece approves less than one percent of asylum applications, compared with a European Union average of 20 percent.

According to minority groups, the treatment of migrants from war-torn states as “illegals” rather than refugees requiring protection forces them to eke out a life on the fringes of society.

“Most don’t get asylum or social support and have to find other ways to survive,” Adam Ziat, leader of the Union of Sudanese Refugees, said in a dingy café behind central Omonia Square that serves as his office.

According to Ahmed Mowias, coordinator of the Greek Migrants’ Forum, newly-arrived refugees from conflict zones are being exploited by rackets run by Nigerians, Moroccans and Algerians established in the area for many years. “Refugees are the smallest links in the dealing chain,” Mowias, a longtime resident of Athens who is from Sudan, said.

Police figures show that most immigrants arrested on drug-related charges in central Athens this year were from war-torn states like Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan.

For most of these migrants, their first stop in Greece was one of the Aegean islands where reception centers are overcrowded and the local authorities are losing their patience.

On Patmos, in the eastern Aegean, the authorities this month blocked their ports to boats carrying passengers from Turkey, saying the number of unwanted visitors on their island had exceeded its 3,000 permanent residents.

The popular islands of Lesbos and Samos, which report getting boatloads of migrants almost daily, are calling on the government to take action.

But, according to Mowias, the government’s failure to create a comprehensive immigration and asylum system is the root of the problem. “When a group of people has no social support and cannot solve its problems, this leads to a crisis,” he said.


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Ok, I have no idea if this is true or not but if it is, I want to emphasize that this tragic event has NOTHING to do with Islam, even if the guy is Muslim.  And there is much evidence to prove that this is absolutely wrong.

Does anyone know if this news report is even true?  I couldn’t find an “About Us” page on the website its published at.



Source:  Daily Times (Pakistan)

Published date: September 26, 2008


ATHENS: Police have arrested a Pakistani in Athens after he allegedly tried to set his Greek wife on fire and then stole her purse, the semi-state Athens News Agency said on Thursday. They had an argument as they drove in the western Athens district of Peristeri on Wednesday, ANA said. The suspect then poured a container of gasoline over the woman who was in the driver’s seat, jumped out of the car and attempted to set it on fire. He was thwarted by people passing by and fled, but not before grabbing his wife’s purse. The man was later arrested outside his house, ANA said. afp

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Source: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/3453/46/

Published Date: September 16, 2008



The UN Minorities Expert Gay McDougall is in Greece. According to the Macedonians in Greece, the Government in Athens will try in every way to show the visit as non important, although, they say, Greek Media has been following the story with great interest.

Namely, for the past two days, the UN representative is in Thrace speaking to the Turkish minority which is been referred by Athens

as the “Muslim speaking” population – According to the Greek Government, “Muslim” is a language.The Turks are a majority in
Thrace and have decades old complaints of not being allowed to identify themselves as ethnic Turks.


The Greek Government does accept a ’muslim’ minority, without specifying their ethnicity. The Turks and Pomaks are seeking autonomy for their region. McDougall also visited the Roma population.

Today, McDougall is meeting with Macedonians in Voden.  She is also scheduled to meet Macedonians in Solun, Kostur, Lerin, Kukus and the villages gravitating around those cities.
The UN representative visiting the area insisting to be accompanied by representatives of the Macedonians in
Greece even though this request drew a strong response from the Greek Government.


Instead, Mina finds, the Greek Government had planned for McDougall to avoid the regions where Macedonians lived, and instead take her to the municipality of Kutlesh, to show the Vlach minority.

According to Greek daily Eleftheros Typos, in its article “Minority Games”, Greece is one of the three countries that McDougall will visit this year. The other two where minority abuse is recorded are Ethiopia and Hungary.

Typos says official Athens is not commenting much on the visit, though Diplomats have confirmed this visit is a problem for Greece.

The Daily further explains there’s been great interest by the Americans to show the “Turkish Identity” of the Muslims in Thrace.  

Parallel to this, the axis
AnkaraSkopje which developed after the Bucharest Summit grows stronger with the aim to create minority problems for Greece, concludes the Greek daily.Yesterday afternoon, the Greek Government received a note from the European Commission of Human Rights which announced their visit at the beginning of next month.



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A few weeks ago, I mentioned that I received four books about Islam in the Greek language.  Br. Hamza from Germany wants everyone to know that he ships these books out to you for FREE.  It’s nice to have these around in case you need to give it to a family member.

Contact Br. Hamza at uslim@web.de to order your free copy today.

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Many of us living outside of Greece, including me, wonder what the treatment of Muslims are living Greece by the locals.  Here’s an enlightening interview by Br. Nabeel, a Pakistani brother living in Athens, Greece.

Q.  What’s your experience living as a Muslim in Greece?

Well, I am here in Greece from last 3 years.  As a Muslim I felt a lot of change in myself when I came here to Greece .  First thing which happened to me I was at work. The boss brought something for me to eat.  I asked him, what is that? He replied “Kotopolo” meaning chicken. The first question rose in my mind, is it halal? (In Pakistan I never faced that kind of stitution like halal or haram). Any how I said to him I will not eat, cause I am Muslim. He said if you are in Pakistan you can do as a Muslim but now you are in Greece so you should do as Christians. I wasn’t good in Greek at that time. Even didn’t know at all. So I couldn’t reply. I wasn’t a good Muslim before, but I started thinking about what makes a difference between me as a Muslim and others. And really I felt a change in me as time passed.

Q. Where do people pray in Athens? 

There are about 50000 Pakistanis here in Greece and about 99 % are Muslims.  Here there are no proper mosques. Just Jaey Namaz or places for prayer. To whom we call as mosques. People have halls and houses on rent and declared them as mosques. These masjids are about 30 in Athens. Mostly have Pakistanis and Bengalis. But some of them are Arabs and of Egyptians.

Q. How are Muslims treated by the locals? 

Here mostly Greeks think about foreigners as 3rd class citizen. If any Pakistani, Bengali or Arab has any shop, they will not go there to buy any thing. But for work they prefer foreigners rather then Greeks.  

If there is a Muslim, meaning a good Muslim have beard etc. they respect him. That is why I feel good. Because in Pakistan I observed that, everyone who has beard, everyone sees him as suspicious person. But it is not here.  Yes here sometime people call the person who has beard Taliban or Bin laden. But it is not with hate or something.  Everyone assk why you have beard – are you a Papa? (papa is you know Imam or religious leader)

 Q.  What’s the status of the mosque being built in Athens? 

What we Muslims need here in Greece is a proper network of availability of halal meat and one or more proper mosques, especially in Athens .  Govt. had a promise to build a mosque in Central Athens (Near Mushtraqi) within 3 years. 1 year has been passed lets see what will happen next.


Want to learn more about the building of the mosque in Athens? Visit MSNBC News report.


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